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Is revive any good for students?

Posted: August 27, 2014 by reviveleeds in Leeds, Opinion, Quotes, revive

We asked Clare, a recent graduate, to say something about how revive works for students. We’re not really a ‘student church’ but we are based in Hyde Park, and students have found a home with us throughout our life.


Revive is a community of people supporting each other. We meet in each other’s homes to discuss books, pray, watch films, listen to speakers, make music – previously revive produced a few albums. Technically a Baptist church and having grown out of a youth group, it now consists mainly of families but a fair few 20s/30s too.


Although Revive has had many incarnations over the years, I hazard that its essential character hasn’t changed much. It has remarkably flat leadership with stuff only happening if people do it. People can disagree and that’s ok. You can be open about your mistakes and issues; any question you ask will be considered. We’ve explored things like Jesus’ humanness, truth, new monasticism, sexuality/orientation, socio-economics, feminism, what is the Bible?  Many Revive people are dedicating their lives’ work to being creative and pursuing social justice in Leeds. Examples of stuff Revive has got behind include The Narnia Experience, Left Bank, & Joanna Project.

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I might describe Revive as the somewhat funny-looking little toe of the church body – it doesn’t suit everyone. For me, Revive became my spiritual home because it was the only place that could embrace and handle my long-repressed questioning nature while showing me something real. I appreciated the lack of pretence and performance: it is – sometimes uncomfortably – personal. Revive could be a good place for you to grow if you are an artist, you are thoughtful, you don’t like hierarchies, you have an idea, you like being outside the student bubble, you like Jesus but aren’t too sure about church…

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Donald Miller is good.

Posted: February 7, 2013 by reviveleeds in Opinion, Quotes
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Donald Miller wrote a good blog post. I don’t agree with all of it. But maybe it explains a bit why we haven’t given up on church.

So what is church?

Posted: January 9, 2013 by reviveleeds in Learning, Opinion, Quotes, revive
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Many years ago, as revive was starting, we received support from a guy called Steve Sullivan. He had the hair, beard and manner of an Old Testament prophet, except he was very friendly, greeting strangers in the street. I recently read this great quote: ‘The difference between a hero and a saint, is that while they are both admirable people, a hero is someone you want to be like, and a saint is someone you don’t want to be like if you can help it.’ Steve was somewhere in the middle.

The most important thing he taught was that church is really simple. If we could obey all the ‘one anothers’ in the New Testament then we would be doing church. So, to start off this new year, here they are: every ‘one another’ or ‘each other’ that constitutes a command, prayer or recommendation in the New Testament. What do you think?

‘Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet.’ (John 13:14)

‘A new command I give you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.’ (John 13:34)

‘By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.’ (John 13:35)

My command is this: love each other as I have loved you. (John 15:12)

This is my command: love each other. (John 15:17)

Be devoted to one another in love. Honour one another above yourselves. (Romans 12:10)

Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited. (Romans 12:16)

Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. (Romans 13:8)

Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling-block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. (Romans 14:13)

May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you the same attitude of mind toward each other that Christ Jesus had, so that with one mind and one voice you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Romans 15:5-6)

Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God. (Romans 15:7)

I myself am convinced, my brothers and sisters, that you yourselves are full of goodness, filled with knowledge and competent to instruct one another. (Romans 15:14)

Greet one another with a holy kiss. (Romans 16:16)

I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. (1Corinthians 1:10)

But God has put the body together, giving greater honour to the parts that lacked it, so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. (1Corinthians 12:24-25)

Greet one another with a holy kiss. (1Corinthinas 16:20)

Strive for full restoration, encourage one another, be of one mind, live in peace. (2Corinthians 13:11)

Greet one another with a holy kiss. (2Corinthinas 13:12)

You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh ; rather, serve one another humbly in love. (Galatians 5:13)

Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. (Galations 5:26)

Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfil the law of Christ. (Galations 6:2)

Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. (Ephesians 4:2)

Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you. (Ephesians 4:32)

Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Ephesians 5:18-20)

Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. (Ephesians 5:21)

In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus (Philippians 2:5)

Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. (Colossians 3:9-10)

Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. (Colossians 3:13)

Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts. (Colossians 3:16)

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord for ever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words. (1Thessalonians 4:17-18)

Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing. (1Thessalonians 5:11)

Live in peace with each other. (1Thessalonians 5:13)

Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always strive to do what is good for each other and for everyone else. (1Thessalonians 5:15)

But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called ‘Today’, so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness. (Hebrews 3:13)

And let us consider how we may spur one another on towards love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another – and all the more as you see the Day approaching. (Hebrews 10:24-25)

Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. (Hebrews 13:1)

Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. (James4:11)

Don’t grumble against one another, brothers and sisters, or you will be judged. (James 5:9)

Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. (James 5:16)

Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. (1Peter 1:22)

Finally, all of you, be like-minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble. (1Peter 3:8)

Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. (1Peter 4:8)

Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling. (1Peter 4:9)

All of you, clothe yourselves with humility towards one another, because, ‘God opposes the proud but shows favour to the humble.’ (1Peter 5:5)

Greet one another with a kiss of love. (1Peter 5:14)

For this is the message you heard from the beginning: we should love one another. (1John 3:11)

And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. (1John 3:23)

Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. (1John 4:7)

Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. (1John 4:11)

No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us. (1John 4:12)

I ask that we love one another. (2John 1:5)

Advent 9: The Magi (Thanks Clare. And T S Eliot)

Posted: December 18, 2012 by reviveleeds in Advent, Quotes, revive
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The Journey of the Magi

“A cold coming we had of it,

Just the worst time of the year

For a journey, and such a long journey:

The ways deep and the weather sharp,

The very dead of winter.”

And the camels galled, sore-footed, refractory,

Lying down in the melting snow.

There were times we regretted

The summer palaces on slopes, the terraces,

And the silken girls bringing sherbet.

Then the camel men cursing and grumbling

And running away, and wanting their liquor and women,

And the night-fires going out, and the lack of shelters,

And the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly

And the villages dirty, and charging high prices.:

A hard time we had of it.

At the end we preferred to travel all night,

Sleeping in snatches,

With the voices singing in our ears, saying

That this was all folly.

Then at dawn we came down to a temperate valley,

Wet, below the snow line, smelling of vegetation;

With a running stream and a water-mill beating the darkness,

And three trees on the low sky,

And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow.

Then we came to a tavern with vine-leaves over the lintel,

Six hands at an open door dicing for pieces of silver,

And feet kicking the empty wine-skins.

But there was no information, and so we continued

And arrived at evening, not a moment too soon

Finding the place; it was (you may say) satisfactory.

All this was a long time ago, I remember,

And I would do it again, but set down

This set down

This: were we lead all that way for

Birth or Death? There was a Birth, certainly,

We had evidence and no doubt. I have seen birth and death,

But had thought they were different; this Birth was

Hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death.

We returned to our places, these Kingdoms,

But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,

With an alien people clutching their gods.

I should be glad of another death.

A quote

Posted: November 17, 2012 by reviveleeds in Quotes

“Discerning signs has to do with comprehending the remarkable in common happenings, with perceiving the saga of salvation within the era of the Fall. It has to do with the ability to interpret ordinary events in both apocalyptic and eschatological connotations, to see portents of death where others find progress or success but, simultaneously, to behold tokens of the reality of the Resurrection or hope where others are consigned to confusion or despair.”

William Stringfellow (No, a different Stringfellow)

Challenging wisdom from Brian McLaren

Posted: October 26, 2012 by reviveleeds in Quotes
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…what we call the secular is actually the realm or domain of the Spirit. The secular – literally meaning the world, the realm outside of church control – isn’t profane. Rather, properly understood, it is sacred because the Spirirt is and always has been active there, evoking light from darkness, order from chaos,fullness from void, life from lifelessness…

If the secular is sacred, that means that the Spirit is at work in what we call secular work in the secular world… So the scientist studying interstellar  dust is investigating the domain of the Spirit, and the Spirit gently ‘hovers’ over her neurons as they fire a hypothesis into being. The same is true of a paleontologist excavating a fossil, an executive developing a marketing plan, a stonemason fashioning a chimney, a father changing a [nappy], a mother planning a vacation, an engineer designing a solar panel and a bookkeeper wrestling with a budget. And that’s as true for a Muslim astronomer, a Buddhist paleontologist, a Sikh executive, a Hindu stonemason, a Jewish father, a Jain mother and an arheist engineer as it is for a Christian theologian. What may differ is not the presence and benevolence of the Spirit, but the awareness and responsiveness of the individual.

From Why did Jesus, Moses, the Buddha and Mohammed Cross the Road?, p141

That William Blake quote in full…

Posted: October 8, 2012 by reviveleeds in Quotes, revive
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“A good local pub has much in common with a church, except that a pub is warmer, and there’s more conversation. ”